Why is everything Kurzick? - Guild Wars Forums

gteddie · Dec 07, 2011, 07:13 AM // 07:13

Been waiting for ages to ZV Gyala Hatchery but the only entrance, deep in Luxon territory, is permanently Kurzick so I cant get the Luxon blessing.

Whats happened to cause such a Faction bias last for so long?

AngelWJedi · Dec 07, 2011, 07:22 AM // 07:22

i know right. ive been waiting forever myself. makes it hard when you're going for either side when part of it is in a different faction.

I Pwn Brownies · Dec 07, 2011, 07:51 AM // 07:51

Start fighting on the Luxon side of AB.

And win.

Venganza · Dec 07, 2011, 08:01 AM // 08:01

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Originally Posted by I Pwn Brownies

Start fighting on the Luxon side of AB.

And win.

Amen, no one who doesn't work to push boundries back, has zero right to moan.

Spiritz · Dec 07, 2011, 09:31 AM // 09:31

Tbh the idea of the boundries was great a few years ago when ab was busy but with less players doing ab it now screws up pve.
Yes - us who have been on gw for longer than a year can remember times when the ab maps been stuck on neutral grounds or even in kurz lands for ages - but at least it gave the pve players a chance to vq the relevant zones.
I know it wont ever get done but anet did split HA away from favor an into world favor - why cant they also do the same with ab and its maps.Have the pve side seperate from the pvp side.Heck im sure gw had and still has many pure pvper`s who dont do pve and cant see why pve should get affected.

Im sure that if things changed where what we did in pve affacted pvp mapes im sure the pvpers would be up in arms over it.
Bottom line - anet please seperate the kurz/lux boundries from pvp or at least set pve where in jade sea its always lux shrines/bounty and same for kurz side.Im sure this would be on many a players dear santa list to anet.

Lil Leena · Dec 07, 2011, 09:47 AM // 09:47

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Originally Posted by I Pwn Brownies

Start fighting on the Luxon side of AB.

And win.

Good luck with that, AB died. People only play when its Zaishen combat day.

turbo234 · Dec 07, 2011, 10:00 AM // 10:00

get 11 other guildies/allies together
win alliance battles
???
profit

aspi · Dec 07, 2011, 11:52 AM // 11:52

Damn pvp influence on pve. Some weird shit there.

Spiritz · Dec 07, 2011, 03:00 PM // 15:00

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Originally Posted by aspi

Damn pvp influence on pve. Some weird shit there.

Its always hit me as weird that pvp affected pve ( favor and boundry in cantha ) but pve didnt have any effect on pvp.
In a way anet are forcing pve players to either settle for less faction via vq in lux/kurz lands or a side effect of stopping us vq till lands return to 50/50.

Showtime · Dec 07, 2011, 03:09 PM // 15:09

It wasn't well thought out imo and people seem to prefer Kurzick overall. I kinda wish the title was a lot less faction but only doable through pvp or after a certain point.

Quaker · Dec 07, 2011, 03:38 PM // 15:38

I don't see this as a big deal. Yes, it would be nice to get Luxon points for the vanquish, but that doesn't stop you from getting the Zaishen coins or completing the vq titles.
It simply means that you will need to do something else to get Luxon points. QQ

Martin Firestorm · Dec 07, 2011, 03:47 PM // 15:47

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Originally Posted by gteddie

Been waiting for ages to ZV Gyala Hatchery but the only entrance, deep in Luxon territory, is permanently Kurzick so I cant get the Luxon blessing.

Same here. It moved a little toward lux a week ago, but the outpost has been in kurz territory since long before this ZV.

Meow Ren · Dec 07, 2011, 04:32 PM // 16:32

er, this might be taking the original thread further off course, but if you take the (Kurz) priest blessing from the shrine outside Lev pits, you'll rack up Kurz points for every red dot, true. But the reward at the end for *completing* the vanquish will be Luxon points, if I recall. Gyala is Luxon territory, even if the only town with a blessing shrine outside is currently Kurzick. Coupled with the Zaishen VQ rewards, you'll still end up ahead on Luxon for vanqing. Other option is to just not take a priest blessing and simply vanq (yes, though it goes against our lab-mouse training to always talk to the priests :P)

Showtime · Dec 07, 2011, 05:02 PM // 17:02

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Originally Posted by Meow Ren

(yes, though it goes against our lab-mouse training to always talk to the priests :P)

I forgot to grab priest while vqing. Decided that was the last of farming that title. So began my greatest quest... the vq'ing of grind titles and bs titles.

So far we've won (kinda) one battle (drunkard), but have lost the grind war.

That is what this thread boils down to isn't it? Arenanet making grind even more difficult for poor luxons.

D....

Kook~NBK~ · Dec 07, 2011, 05:07 PM // 17:07

I'm waiting until the Rhea's Crater comes up as the ZV on Dec 30th and doing them both at once. From the Rhea's Crater portal, go north up the right side of Gyala and get the Luxon Blessing from the priest outside of Gyala Hatchery. That will minimize the "lost" luxon faction from kills.

EDIT: This won't work - there's no shrine or priest there, dagnabit!

chuckles79 · Dec 07, 2011, 05:58 PM // 17:58

It goes in waves. When I started factions in '07 it was balanced but it quickly went towards the luxons. Then in late 08 and 09 it was heavy on the Kurzick side, then it went back to Luxons until the last 8 months.
It'll swing back and forth.

When I went for my VQ title earlier this year/late last year it was impossible to get Kurzick VQs in Luxon land except on AB weekends (there are more Kurzick players than Luxon, but it used to be that most of them did not PvP).

Meow Ren · Dec 07, 2011, 06:07 PM // 18:07

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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~

I'm waiting until the Rhea's Crater comes up as the ZV on Dec 30th and doing them both at once. From the Rhea's Crater portal, go north up the right side od Gyala and get the Luxon Blessing from the priest outside of Cavalon. That will minimize the "lost" luxon faction from kills.

Er....Cavalon is north of Rhea's Crater? I thought it was Northwest...as in THROUGH Gyala outpost, then Maishang Hills and thru a swirly to get there? I could be wrong...it's been a while since I've been in Gyala Explorable carto-ing and all.

Unless you mean the priest outside Gyala?...because there isn't any priest outside Gyala. Only shrine with NPC's in Gyala explorable is outside Lev Pits I believe?

Jk Arrow · Dec 07, 2011, 07:32 PM // 19:32

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Originally Posted by Spiritz

Tbh the idea of the boundries was great a few years ago when ab was busy but with less players doing ab it now screws up pve.
Yes - us who have been on gw for longer than a year can remember times when the ab maps been stuck on neutral grounds or even in kurz lands for ages - but at least it gave the pve players a chance to vq the relevant zones.
I know it wont ever get done but anet did split HA away from favor an into world favor - why cant they also do the same with ab and its maps.Have the pve side seperate from the pvp side.Heck im sure gw had and still has many pure pvper`s who dont do pve and cant see why pve should get affected.

Im sure that if things changed where what we did in pve affacted pvp mapes im sure the pvpers would be up in arms over it.
Bottom line - anet please seperate the kurz/lux boundries from pvp or at least set pve where in jade sea its always lux shrines/bounty and same for kurz side.Im sure this would be on many a players dear santa list to anet.

I find it odd with the introduction of Imperial Faction that this should even take place any longer. Lux fight on Kurz side and Kurz fight on Lux side since you earn Imperial Faction rather than Lux/Kurz. Why would boundries need to shift?

Hephaestus Ram · Dec 07, 2011, 07:59 PM // 19:59

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Originally Posted by gteddie

Been waiting for ages to ZV Gyala Hatchery but the only entrance, deep in Luxon territory, is permanently Kurzick so I cant get the Luxon blessing.

Whats happened to cause such a Faction bias last for so long?

Can't you bribe the priest for the blessing anyway? 50 gp isn't that much.

chuckles79 · Dec 07, 2011, 08:50 PM // 20:50

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Originally Posted by Hephaestus Ram

Can't you bribe the priest for the blessing anyway? 50 gp isn't that much.

You get the blessing for that faction. If you are Kurzick, you may not want Luxon faction, and vice-versa.

Dec 07, 2011, 07:13 AM // 07:13	#1
gteddie Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Aug 2011 Guild: The Incredible Edible Bookah Profession: E/	Why is everything Kurzick? Been waiting for ages to ZV Gyala Hatchery but the only entrance, deep in Luxon territory, is permanently Kurzick so I cant get the Luxon blessing. Whats happened to cause such a Faction bias last for so long?

Dec 07, 2011, 05:07 PM // 17:07	#15
Kook~NBK~ Grotto Attendant Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: A little chalet outside Drok's Guild: Natural Born Killaz	I'm waiting until the Rhea's Crater comes up as the ZV on Dec 30th and doing them both at once. From the Rhea's Crater portal, go north up the right side of Gyala and get the Luxon Blessing from the priest outside of Gyala Hatchery. That will minimize the "lost" luxon faction from kills. EDIT: This won't work - there's no shrine or priest there, dagnabit! Last edited by Kook~NBK~; Dec 07, 2011 at 09:01 PM // 21:01..

Dec 07, 2011, 07:22 AM // 07:22	#2
AngelWJedi Furnace Stoker Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: orlando,florida Guild: Society of Souls [Argh] Profession: Rt/E	i know right. ive been waiting forever myself. makes it hard when you're going for either side when part of it is in a different faction.

Dec 07, 2011, 07:51 AM // 07:51	#3
I Pwn Brownies Academy Page Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Insert where I live here Guild: None. Profession: Me/	Start fighting on the Luxon side of AB. And win.

Dec 07, 2011, 09:31 AM // 09:31	#5
Spiritz Forge Runner Join Date: Apr 2007 Guild: DMFC	Tbh the idea of the boundries was great a few years ago when ab was busy but with less players doing ab it now screws up pve. Yes - us who have been on gw for longer than a year can remember times when the ab maps been stuck on neutral grounds or even in kurz lands for ages - but at least it gave the pve players a chance to vq the relevant zones. I know it wont ever get done but anet did split HA away from favor an into world favor - why cant they also do the same with ab and its maps.Have the pve side seperate from the pvp side.Heck im sure gw had and still has many pure pvper`s who dont do pve and cant see why pve should get affected. Im sure that if things changed where what we did in pve affacted pvp mapes im sure the pvpers would be up in arms over it. Bottom line - anet please seperate the kurz/lux boundries from pvp or at least set pve where in jade sea its always lux shrines/bounty and same for kurz side.Im sure this would be on many a players dear santa list to anet.

Dec 07, 2011, 10:00 AM // 10:00	#7
turbo234 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: WI Profession: Mo/	get 11 other guildies/allies together win alliance battles ??? profit

Dec 07, 2011, 11:52 AM // 11:52	#8
aspi Desert Nomad Join Date: Jan 2010 Guild: eeew Profession: N/Rt	Damn pvp influence on pve. Some weird shit there.

Dec 07, 2011, 03:09 PM // 15:09	#10
Showtime Forge Runner Join Date: Sep 2005 Guild: WTB Q9+5e Bows/Q8 14^50 Weapons Profession: R/P	It wasn't well thought out imo and people seem to prefer Kurzick overall. I kinda wish the title was a lot less faction but only doable through pvp or after a certain point.

Dec 07, 2011, 03:38 PM // 15:38	#11
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	I don't see this as a big deal. Yes, it would be nice to get Luxon points for the vanquish, but that doesn't stop you from getting the Zaishen coins or completing the vq titles. It simply means that you will need to do something else to get Luxon points. QQ

Dec 07, 2011, 04:32 PM // 16:32	#13
Meow Ren Krytan Explorer Join Date: Aug 2011 Guild: Black Hand Gang Profession: R/	er, this might be taking the original thread further off course, but if you take the (Kurz) priest blessing from the shrine outside Lev pits, you'll rack up Kurz points for every red dot, true. But the reward at the end for completing the vanquish will be Luxon points, if I recall. Gyala is Luxon territory, even if the only town with a blessing shrine outside is currently Kurzick. Coupled with the Zaishen VQ rewards, you'll still end up ahead on Luxon for vanqing. Other option is to just not take a priest blessing and simply vanq (yes, though it goes against our lab-mouse training to always talk to the priests :P)

Dec 07, 2011, 05:58 PM // 17:58	#16
chuckles79 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2009 Guild: FILA Profession: P/	It goes in waves. When I started factions in '07 it was balanced but it quickly went towards the luxons. Then in late 08 and 09 it was heavy on the Kurzick side, then it went back to Luxons until the last 8 months. It'll swing back and forth. When I went for my VQ title earlier this year/late last year it was impossible to get Kurzick VQs in Luxon land except on AB weekends (there are more Kurzick players than Luxon, but it used to be that most of them did not PvP).